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post Jul 9 2004, 09:00 AM
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Here is the complete procedure

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post Jul 9 2004, 09:03 AM
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carguru,

I must say that is a wonderful write up you have done! Very impressive!! I have had this performed twice by the dealers, now I would feel comfortable doing it myself. Thanks again for the fantastic post!!! biggrin.gif

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post Jul 27 2004, 10:10 PM
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what sucks is that it isnt covered under warranty and ther is no recall on it. i think thats total bs we spend this much for our suvs and they cant fix it. this has been done to our hoe 2x and its a 02 wtf is up with gm mad.gif


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post Jul 28 2004, 05:40 AM
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JOCCW,

This fix is absolutely covered under warrenty. This is a huge widespread issue. There is even a Tech. Service Bulletin for the fix. I have had mine fixed twice under warrenty no questions asked. If your dealer denied you the warrenty work, I would be taking my recipts back to them and demanding a refund, or open a case with GM. There should be no questions asked...

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post Jul 28 2004, 07:21 AM
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As long as bumper to bumper is still in effect (or GM extended warranty or in your's and bekind's case, documented by previous repairs) this repair is covered (unless you've really burned your bridges with the dealership that did the service). If you read in part 1, the TSB number is included. I did this to my Silverado almost 7 months ago and many miles later, the symptoms haven't returned.


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post Jul 28 2004, 11:29 PM
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warranty is over 84000 miles on the clock and we got the car used so we dont have the recipets but i had teh guy run a vis and he said it was repaired once be4 i was like so why dont u guys just fix it again for me because obviously it didnt work to well


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post Jul 29 2004, 08:57 AM
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Well, all stuff will eventually break. I doesn't matter what it is or how much it is. I fixed my '02 Silverado with only 14k miles. It hasn't returned since. This is a common problem, not only on GM vehicles, but on many other makes also. This design is a safety feature so the steering column collapses in a collision. There is likely not going to be any kind of recall since this is not a safety issue, it is more of an annoyance.

As I said before, if you have warranty or a very good relationship with the dealership, they will likely fix it for gratis. Otherwise, I posted this guide to help others out in case they want to tackle this themselves. If you do it yourself, it will cost no more than $20 and about 1 hour of your time, tops. If you have warranty, take it back and have the dealer fix it. Otherwise, just deal with it. tongue.gif


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post Jul 29 2004, 02:01 PM
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the kit they were trying to sell me was for 110.00 ohmy.gif


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post Jul 29 2004, 09:19 PM
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0.4 hours for labor (+0.2 hours with adjustable pedals) plus kit, shop charges and taxes. I can see it being $110. A little bit on the high side, but I can see it.


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post Jul 30 2004, 02:25 AM
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no 110 for parts 115 for labor for 225 hell no not unless its gonna make it so i cant stear


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post Jul 30 2004, 06:21 AM
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I see what they are doing. They are charging you for the intermediate shaft replacement. If they only replaced the shaft previously, the problem definitely comes back. That cost is about right for the shaft replacement. Labor is a bit high, but I suspected that with your previous post.


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post Jul 30 2004, 07:56 AM
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Can you describe the symptoms?

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PS: Great phots and detailed descriptions!

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Symptoms, from my experience anyway, were a slight cluncking when going around sweeping turns both left and right. You can feel the clunking through the steering wheel. For one reason or another I noticed that when it was really humid or wet out, it did it worse. Either way, when they perform the TSB it was back to new...

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The symptoms are if you are turning (usually slow speeds), you feel a dull thump in the steering wheel. Sometimes if it is real quiet you could hear a slight faint clunk.


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post Jul 30 2004, 09:29 AM
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I may have experienced this so I want to confirm. Is it just one thump or multiple thumps and is it as you turn the steering wheel or after the steering wheel is in the turned position? sharp or mild turns?

I've have thump right at the end of the steering wheel range but didn't perceive it as a problem. What happens if this goes untreated?

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post Jul 30 2004, 10:53 AM
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It could be a combination of what you described. In my case it was a mild thumping when the wheel was turned a bit, not necessarily all the way turned. If it goes un treadted, I do not believe that it will be a safety risk, but just annoying really. I could feel multiple thumps ar ratteling.

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Like bekind just said, it can be one or multiple thumps. I've only felt it when I have the wheel just turned slightly. There shouldn't be much more wear than normal if untreated, but it is a nuisance.


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post Oct 28 2004, 09:03 PM
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Happened to our '02 Av very slightly too, and the dealer fixed it with lube.

The new '04 Suburban steering has a much more noticeable clunk (and can really hear a bang too, if you turn it all the way to the left and move forward), but hasn't been taken in yet. Hope to get this and the popcorn popper exhaust sound fixed soon.


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There is a newer TSB out that actually covers the 2wd trucks also. I believe it is revision F. It calls for the replacement of the upper intermediate shaft. Just out of curiosity, what is the build date on the 'burb? (It should be on the sticker on the door jamb)


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QUOTE (carguru @ Oct 29 2004, 08:53 AM)
There is a newer TSB out that actually covers the 2wd trucks also. I believe it is revision F. It calls for the replacement of the upper intermediate shaft. Just out of curiosity, what is the build date on the 'burb? (It should be on the sticker on the door jamb)

Well, the build date of ours probably affects a few issues with it, because it was one of the very first '04s to roll off the line, in 08/03. Plus, it's 2wd, so the new upper shaft probably would fix the issue. At first just noticed the clunk, but then started to hear the loud bang noise it also made with a tight turn and moving.


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